Ask not...want not!

Why is it that some people, armed with only partial information or information from unreliable sources, assume they are knowledgeable enough to weigh in as experts on specific subjects? It goes right along with getting unasked for, unnecessary and uninformed advice…especially in the up close and personal department. This is a pet peeve of mine. It also hits my husband’s radar. It’s as if these people are judging us and finding fault with how we live our lives. Perhaps they think we have a problem because we don’t conform to their lifestyle...or maybe they weigh in for other more altruistic reasons. Either way, I think it’s best to keep these opinions to ourselves, unless someone asks for our advice. I say, “Ask not, want not.”

I am reminded of the well-known and arguably incorrect phrase, “Mother knows best.” I say “incorrect” because no one person, mother or not, can know what’s best 100 percent of the time—not for themselves, for their children or for their extended family and friends. Also…pointing out that we know best does not endear us to others…whether we are correct or not. I threw the “arguably” in front of “incorrect” because I know many mothers will argue this point repeatedly.

I admit that it’s tough, but I strive to live by the motto “live and let live.” It is for this reason that I shy away from talking politics and religion amongst friends. It is also for this reason that I am reluctant to do business with friends and family—or with friends and family of friends and family. She may sell seashells down by the seashore, but if she’s related to a friend or a family member then I purposely pass on her products even if they are perfect presents for my peeps.

Seriously, why do people want to tell us how we should live our lives? Or point out what we are doing wrong according to their rules, standards and expectations? I’m not talking about life threatening instances…and I’m not talking about those who interfere for malicious reasons. The people I refer to are the ones who honestly think they are doing the right thing. They feel as if it is their job or duty to weigh in and give you their unsolicited advice in the form of constructive criticism. Ironically, many of these critics can’t handle criticism well when it comes their way. It’s also been my experience that these same people—who think they know best—base their opinions, judgments and criticism on incomplete information or erroneous facts. Yet they still readily dole out their advice as if they are the final word—the experts in our field.

This reminds me of my boys…my stepsons. I’ve tried through the years to encourage their independent thought process. The result is that they like what they like and it isn’t always what I like. Is their hair too long or too short for my liking? Do I like the style of their clothing? Do I care for their music? The answers to these questions aren’t important. What matters is that they like their hair, clothing and music. Sure, these are superficial items. What about their politics? Am I pleased with the direction they’ve taken. Again, it doesn’t matter. What’s most important is that the politics they have chosen are the politics they believe in…and that they have chosen knowledgeably. If our children grow up to do everything to please us, including the manner in which they dress or vote, then we have done them an injustice.

I am sure the day will come when my husband and I will have to hold our tongues on some serious matters with our boys. We may not care for their living arrangements, or lifestyle choices…or heaven forbid, whom they choose as a partner in life. If this day comes, I hope to remember the many times I received well-meaning, but unsolicited and erroneous advice. I hope to recall how this unwelcome interference made me feel. I hope to remember that I am not an expert anymore on what these boys want or need. I will also strive to remember that no one knows what goes on behind closed doors—yours, mine, or theirs—except for those who live behind these doors.

It is for this reason that my husband and I hold our cards close to the vest. We live rather privately. It seems we have taught our boys to do the same. Does this mean that some day they may shut us out of the everyday events in their lives? Not if we behave and remember that we are no longer the bosses of them or their lives…and we no longer know what’s best. Unless, of course, they provide us with all the information we need and then ask for our advice. Even then, it’s tricky…just like the she who sometimes sells seashells down by the seashore situation.

Now it’s time to put a close to these musings. That last trip to the seashore did me in. Plus, I need to go shopping. I’m going to pick up a few gifts for the boys that I know they want, but I think they don’t need, and I probably won’t like. That’s right. I’m going to give them what they like, not what I think they should like. I’m going to let them march to their own beat, not to mine...and I’m not even going to tell them to turn down the volume. Why? Because these two apples don’t fall too far from their trees—even if one of their trees is just a step-tree.

© 2005 Teresa G. Franta

Comments

Me said…
Teri, here I am back to the other side of the world and getting the advantage to be the first one to comment here!!
You summed it all up in this great closing sentence:
“Because these two apples don’t fall too far from their trees—even if one of their trees is just a step-tree.”
I am in complete agreement with you...live and let live..our children always never fall away from their trees!! Give them what THEY like and what I think they SHOULD like...Love it!
Tamarai said…
EXCELLENT! And inspiring. I like the way you've put this across Teri. I agree with you and could not have said it better myself.
Kacey said…
You are right about the apples! It's just hard to see them lying about around our trunks, when we know we should pick them up to keep them from rotting. My biggest problem with the "I know it all and I'm going to tell you how" people --- are the movie stars and famous people trying to tell us how to vote, think and how to run the government. They are not smart enough to run everything, but that does not keep them from telling us how we should do things. Times are strange and getting stranger. Nice post, Teri.
B.S. said…
Teri, you are right on track. I know, because it's a track I'm struggling to find. I have always sought advice from those "experts" out there who are all too ready to pounce upon my weakness. In my case, it's my own fault, usually, because I ask for it. Lately, though, I've noticed myself taking offense at people's assumptions that they know better than I. My life is nobody else's business, just as the lives of others are not my business. The privacy of you and your husband shows much integrity, and it's what I am striving for. I don't have to be the whirling dervish who careens from person to person for guidance. Thank you for yet another post with great relevance to my life.

Hugs,
Betty
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Summer...I thought you might relate. It's interesting how relationships change, or should change, as a family grows together. I've learned as much from my stepsons as they have from me. Well, almost, but there's a lot of daylight left.

Ciao bella...enjoy the week. ;)
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Tanya...thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed my musings. To know that I "reach" someone makes all the difference. ;)

Ciao bella...have a great week.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Kacey...so true about leaving the apples on the ground. Sometimes we need to do a little harvesting and make some apple pie. I know you are a master pie maker and I doubt any of your apples have gone to waste. Good for you chica. ;)

As for the political comment...you know I don't weigh in on this site, however, I do have an opinion. I don't like anyone telling me how to vote - especially those who are ill informed, not experienced enough, or pushing their own agendas. Having said that, I don't know who that leaves me to listen to. ;)

Ciao bella...yes, that's as close as I come to a "political" comment. Have a great week Kacey, my fellow sideways chica!
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Betty...what an interesting observation. Good for you! Even though we may ask for advice at times...or ponder a question aloud, does not mean we are giving others carte blanch to weigh in on every detail of our lives. ;)

Perhaps it is these boundary issues that have kept me in the private zone.

Ciao bella...excellent food for thought. Beware of asking...not necessarily what you ask for! Enjoy the week. Hugs to you and the child.
Enigma said…
Hi Teri,
You have said so eloquently what I desperately need to tell a friend. She judges folks without the entire story (myself included!). Lately I have decided to give her a lot of space and to keep to myself. All of that assuming and trying to tell me what is wrong with my life... Yes I ask for advice on occassion but goodness!! Thanks for saying it a lot more maturely than I ever could have.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Enigma...thank you. I find that the space issue helps somewhat, but after all is said and done, the issue is still there if you share too much with these well-meaning people. It seems that they just can't help telling you what "you need to know" and what "you need to do." ;)

Good luck chica...I wish you well. Ciao for now...and have a great week.
Reach said…
Hello Teri,
Wow, what a thought provoking article.
I do have friends who ask for my opinion/advice, and your words today have created a thought process. Do I automatically offer my opinion, or does it come from another's asking? You have "reach(ed)" another today, as I take some time to reflect.

Have a great weekend,

Reach
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Reach...if I am asked, then I will weigh in...maybe. Sometimes people are not sincere when they ask for advice. They think they are...but what they really want is for us to tell them what they want to hear. This is another can 'o worms. I touched on it in "That's not my suitcase."

Good luck friend...and since you asked, I will tell you my honest opinion. Don't say unless asked, and even then be careful that you have enough information to go on. Remember...there are always two or more sides to every story.

Ciao for now Reach...have a great week and thank you also for the kind words. ;)
Julie said…
Wonderful post. I hve stopped telling people about my things I don't want advice about and many times that doesn't help. I have learned to turn a deaf ear and remember the source when I get unsolicited advice about "what I would do". In my situation, it has taught me to keep my mouth shut, most days!
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Jules...good for you! I try to do the same, and if that doesn't work then I end up writing about it, as I did this week.

Ciao bella...have a great week, and you can always weigh in here, whether I ask or not. ;)
Priyamvada_K said…
Teri,
Live and let live is my favorite policy too...We don't need people telling us what to do unless we ask.

My live-and-let live of late extends to my bf, when it comes to presents. Gave him a presents like expensive cologne, and a watch, which I thought were good but are still lying in his closet.

SO.....I plan to give him utilitarian things that he "intends" to buy some day but never gets around to.

My holiday gift to him is an anodized pan....Super romantic, eh ;-)?

Priya.
Anonymous said…
Teri, you're absolutely right. Unsolicited advice and butting in is a good way to create bad feelings. I find that even when people ask for advice, they often just want you to affirm what they already know. I have a friend that calls every couple of weeks with the same dilemma, wondering what she should do... but obviously, she doesn't really want my advice. She just wants to talk. Sometimes we just give our opinion to prove we are listening and that we care.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Priya...works for me, but more importantly it works for the bf! ;)

Congratulations on recognizing that a gift is something that should represent the receivers wants, desires and personality. Takes many people a long time - and sometimes never - to get it.

Ciao bella...have a great week.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Doughnut Jane...looks like you have mastered the fine art of friendship. Good for you. I do bet that when it's important that you also speak up, eh? ;)

Ciao bella...thanks for weighing in, and enjoy the week.
I agree, I've written several articles and columns about letting people (especially our kids)make their own choices. If they don't, they won't be living their lives, they'll be living ours.

Carine

www.Carine-whatscooking.blogspot.com
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Carine...glad you agree chica.

Ciao bella...have a great week. ;)
Anonymous said…
Busy-bodies are EXTREMELY irksome. It's probably a heck of a lot easier telling everyone else how to live THEIR lives than to figure out what's wrong with your own. And constantly pushing unsolicited advice works wonders when you're trying to hide how ill-equipped you are to solve your own problems.

Love that "she sells seashells" alliteration, too. ;)
Big Dave T said…
Definitely not a "helicopter parent" then, are you. My teacher friend complains about these parents all the time.

Well said, Teri. We've let our adult children learn the ropes their way. Even if experience is a fool's teacher, sometimes it has to be so.

There are so many pitfalls for young adults in the modern day world--easy credit, predatory businesses, fine print on top of fine print--sometimes I do have to weigh in when I see a dicy situation on the horizon for one of my boys. I know father doesn't know best, but he often does know better.
Spicy said…
Teri,
Right on! As a full-time grandmother, I've taken my share of 'people know best',,,,,they ask the stupidest questions. Why are you taking care of your grandkids, its not your job, not your responsibility,,,,,ad nauseum!
I do what I have to do, because I have to! period.
And yes, I've held my tongue when my sons went out with girls with tongue rings and belly rings, and well,,,,,rings..and maybe they dressed a little too provocative for my taste. So what? Someone told me long time ago, if you want to keep your sons, find a good quality in their girlfriends and dwell on that, not on their short-comings, and so far, it works.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Nicole...well said chica...and I agree completely.

And thank you for appreciating my little seashell alliteration. I wondered how this would play, and almost edited it out - but it made me laugh so I said, "Why not?" ;)

Ciao bella...have a great week.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Big Dave...no helicopters for me, even though it is a struggle to push back the instinct to "hover" and keep a protective eye out for my brood - especially after they get hurt (both physically and emotionally). I try to stay "grounded" as much as possible. ;)

I was taught many lessons by that "fool" of a teacher you mention - and while it wasn't any fun then, it does make for an interesting look back now and then.

Also...I agree that we may not always know best, but many times we know better. If I can get that point across without being overprotective, overbearing or interfering, then I do so...and sometimes I am guilty of doing it even when I am being overprotective, overbearing or interfering. I think we are all guilty of this on occasion.

Ciao Big Dave...sounds like your sons have a great dad who definitely has a way with words. Have a great week.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Matty...right on back at you chica! I love your attitude! ;)

Here's to you...a mother and grandmother to "beat the band," as my friend Su-Z-Q would say. If you're not sure whether this is a compliment or not, no worries - it most definitely is!

Ciao bella...enjoy those grandchildren and have a great week.
Dust-bunny said…
Teri,

This hits home with me. I've been on the receiving end, but I've also been on the "giving" end of this scenario.

I lost a close relationship with my husband's sister because of my own "righteousness". Her husband, who was a renowned scoundrel to begin with and was awaiting a prison sentence for a very high-end crime, basically brought his distasteful nonsense into our home without her knowledge. My husband and I held on to this information for two months before finally telling her--and we thought that we'd be "setting her free" from this narcissistic, self-serving man by doing so. We thought that she would finally have "proof" enough that he was a louse and that she would go on to live the life that WE thought she "deserved"--not the life of lies that she was living.

Boy, were we wrong. He spun such a web of lies to her about us and his actions, that the entire event backfired in our faces. She, of course, chose to believe her husband as she has done a thousand times in the past. We are not the only ones who dislike him--her whole family dislikes him as well--the difference is that we were the only ones arrogant enough to think that anything WE said would bring her to this epiphanous "aha!" moment that would change her life for the better. Had we known then what we know now, we would've just realized that she prefers to live in ignorance.

She knows the truth. She just doesn't want anyone else to confirm it by verbalizing it to her. We should've just kept mum and kept the peace. It was a really sad, hard lesson to learn.

Take good care,
Lisa
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Lisa...your story reminds me of the roundtable comments that ensued for my essay, "Barking up the right tree?"

What can I say...sometimes we do what we think is right and we (and others) have to live with the consequences. I think what you did was the right choice simply because you did it - no turning back now. I also think your motivation was good - as in you didn't say something to stir the pot. To each his or her own I guess, or the blind leading the blind. Take your pick. ;)

Ciao bella...have a great week.
Ballpoint Wren said…
I have one relative always pointing out where I messed up. I always take to heart what she says, too, until I rethink it later.

For example:

Several years ago lifeguards had to rescue my sons and their friends from a rip current. My relative was quick to call me up: "What? You mean, you actually let your kids--and children in your care--play at the beach without making them wear life vests?"

I hung my head in shame, but later I thought, wait a minute! How often do I see kids at the beach wearing life vests? Floaties, sure, but life vests?

She gets me every time!
Sideways Chica said…
My dear Bonnie (Ballpoint Wren)...oh how I relate to your story. I shall not go into details, but suffice it to say that I completely understand. ;)

Ciao bella...life vests indeed! Have a great week and keep on "honking!"
Dust-bunny said…
Teri,

I just went back and read "Barking Up the Right Tree"...great post. In regard to that post, I read through most of the comments, and I think most people would rather know than not know, like myself. From the first "red flag" that I saw in my marriage (and there were many to come), I started getting suspicious. The funny thing was, as much as my ex could get on people's nerves with trivial nonsense, no one ever thought that he'd cheat...so no one had to decide whether to tell me something or not. In fact, 3 of my friends were so shocked that they started to worry that it could happen to them, as well. I myself was the one to do the detective work and find out. To me, it mattered very much that I wasn't made to look like a fool. Apparently, some people don't really care about that.

I think there's another reason my husband's sister would rather live like an ostrich with her head in the sand...it's very expensive sand. I lived on that exclusive beach also, and gave it all up...and she does not want to do that. She is mistakenly equating dignity with money. I myself would rather be poor with my dignity than be a rich fool. All the money in the world can't buy self-respect.

...Of course, being rich with dignity is always very desirable, but hey, you can't have everything! ;)

Unfortunately, money can't buy our words back either, and we still have to live with the fact that we may have made an unfortunate choice in telling my sister-in-law the truth. It really was a lesson in humanity, I'll tell you that. We won't be telling anyone what to do with their life ever again.

Take good care,
Lisa
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Lisa...it seems as if you have learned volumes from personal experience. Good for you. Some people could have reality bite them in the nose and still never acknowledge the truth. The truth hurts sometimes, but so does fooling ourselves. I'm with you chica. I want the scoop, the whole scoop and nothing but the scoop. ;)

Ciao bella...glad you read "Barking" and read between the lines.
Koi said…
'The people I refer to are the ones who honestly think they are doing the right thing. They feel as if it is their job or duty to weigh in and give you their unsolicited advice in the form of constructive criticism. Ironically, many of these critics can’t handle criticism well when it comes their way.'

That was very well said. That is usually how those types operate. They are also famous for being extremely insensative as well.

I have in my time administered unwated or unsolicited advice. We all have at one point in time or another. I think the biggest part is the phrasing of it. Usually when someone asks my advice now I offer it up as a question, "Is this working well for you?" "Do you think maybe?" I try to leave it open so the other person has the option to say no. Sometimes it works, sometimes it dosen't. Still fine tuning.

I am myself am working on the 'listening' part more than
anything else. I am a loudmouth myself, and it's not very often people don't know what I think. I am more interested in what other people think now. I have discovered if you let people talk you can find out some interesting things.

Kind of like that old addage, 'Better to be thought a fool than go and prove it'

Really liked the article, got me thinking, love those!
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Mamalilith...good to hear from you chica. ;)

Yes, I do agree that we are all probably guilty of dispensing unsolicited advice at one point or another. Having said that, I like your "listening" pilgrimage. We can all probably benefit from a little more ear time and less mouth time. I'm going to give this a whirl myself. Plus, it's fun to get people talking and see where the conversation goes. Invariably we learn something new or interesting as you pointed out.

Ciao bella...hope all is well with you and yours. Glad you liked the article. Have a great week.
fjl said…
I think this happens when people feel threatened by you having something better. Look at what's going on with my research. Why are all these mugs so mad, telling me what to do with it? I mean why do they care?
Sideways Chica said…
Dear FJL...yes, sometimes jealousy is a motivating factor in doling out the advice. :(

Again I say live and let live as long as it doesn't cause harm to others, and to each his or her own. I will also throw different strokes for different folks into the mix. I think this is a recipe we should all follow more often. ;)

Ciao bella...enjoy the season.
Leann said…
I took an arrow straight through the heart.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear LeAnn...Ouch! I think your point is a sharp one. Hopefully the wound is healing. ;)

Ciao bella...take care.
Debbie said…
Guilty, Guilty, Guilty. I can say I have a thought on everything. Or when i don't I have an opition on why I don't.(oh brother)I try to think things out before the actual act, but sometimes no matter how well you think you say something it will always be heard differently. I recently addressed a situation, and if you are an outsider looking it, boy do I look evil. Oh well, at least the people involved get the point.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear Debbie...I guess you can say you call 'em like you see 'em - even as relates to yourself. ;)

Thanks for the honesty...refreshing!

Ciao bella...have a great week.
Leann said…
It is healing and I'm trying REALLY hard to keep my mouth shut.
Sideways Chica said…
Dear LeAnn...good for you chica. REALLY good for you! ;)

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